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so with a doma case, it's like justice kennedy's most favorite things. because justice kennedy loves state power. >> loves state's rights. ? and he loves gay rights because of the 1996 case and the 2003 case, both of which he authored the opinion that upheld the rightings of lgbtv individuals. the doe ma case is like the perfect convergence of those two strands so, that's why i'm so confident about the doma case because it's a state's rights case in the sense that the federal government is meddling with the state definitions of marriage. with respect to the prop 8 case, i think again kennedy, because of these two cases i mentioned, is likely to be sympathetic but may be incremental. he may say something along the lines of one state or eight states have to flip. i don't think he'll flip all 41. >> we always appreciate your valuable insight. we hope you'll stick around for the next few months and continue to provide that as we wade through what is undoubtedly going to be a fairly complex case, as well. good saturday to you, sir. thank you for your time. >>
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. >> the court also said government deals with marriage as a civil status with doma ruled understand constitutional in two states, what exactly does that mean for guy couples? >> i think what it means is the government is looking at it pure. you may be opposed to it or not or the church may believe in it or cannot. but it's a government thing. if the state wants to say it's legal, that state has the right to say legally they can mair. it's separate church and state. >> many believe that this will be eventually taken up by the supreme court. are you confident of that as well? >> i think it's coming. there are a lot of political issues. we're getting there. sooner or later the supreme court is going to have to put a stop to it and say this is the law of the land or wait for congress to do something, which doesn't seem like it's going to happen. >> if they do take it up, how much will the lower court's decision matter? >> it's saying gay people have been unrepresented by authority and i think the sproort court does need to do something sooner or later because it's going keep coming up.
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one is doma, defense of marriage act. this administration won't defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender. what happens if doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4, whatever. >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone. >> what would it mean to a person married? >> that would bemean couples married in those states would be recognized by the federal government. would mean we still have a lot of work to do and depending how they rule in the prop 8 case we still need other states to move forward with the right to marry. >> an honor to have you on and elizabeth, glad to have you back in a much bigger studio now. the republican establishment at war with his crazy wing, said they lost election because i ideologues pulled mitt romney too far to the right. wrong says the right ring, we lost because mitt romney wasn't right wing enough. the winner will determine whether the gop returns to the center or becomes a more fringy party. >>> two people get in the room. the p
one is doma, defense of marriage act. this administration won't defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender. what happens if doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4, whatever. >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone. >> what would it mean to a person married? >> that would bemean couples married in those states would be recognized by the federal government....
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doma cases are slightly different. i think the doma challenge is much narrower challenge and i expect it to be much more optimistic about a kind of flat-out ruling that this is unconstitutional by the supreme court. the reason i think that, melissa, doma doesn't require any state to change its marriage laws. all it says is the federal government is going to return to what the federal government was always doing before. we were talking about federalism issues earlier in the show. in the history of marriage, the federal government has always deferred to state definitions of marriage. let me give you an example. some states allow first cousins to marry, others don't because of prohibitions, incest concerns and things like that. whatever the state definitions are, the federal government has always followed the state definition. if a state says they're married, the federal government says for the purposes of benefits they're married. in 1996, the defense of marriage act departed from that practice and said the federal gover
doma cases are slightly different. i think the doma challenge is much narrower challenge and i expect it to be much more optimistic about a kind of flat-out ruling that this is unconstitutional by the supreme court. the reason i think that, melissa, doma doesn't require any state to change its marriage laws. all it says is the federal government is going to return to what the federal government was always doing before. we were talking about federalism issues earlier in the show. in the history...
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so i think that doma law goes by the wayside. the second question is an equal protection question and goes specifically at the california referendum which -- >> the proposition 8. >> the proposition, proposition 8, which makes it illegal under california law to have gay marriage. they will look at that under the equal protection clause. i think it's a little bit hazardous to anticipate where the court will go on that question, and i would be reluctant to do that, but that's kind of an equal protection question. the request he is will the court be ahead of where the public is or behind the public. this is a question that eventually sooner or later, probably sooner, the public will come around to recognize and already is showing by the polls that marriage equality should be considered a fundamental constitutional right. >> professor peterson, to julian's point, despite its rulings on the president's health care law, on immigration, this court maintains a conservative tilt. is this necessarily good news for supporters of same-sex ma
so i think that doma law goes by the wayside. the second question is an equal protection question and goes specifically at the california referendum which -- >> the proposition 8. >> the proposition, proposition 8, which makes it illegal under california law to have gay marriage. they will look at that under the equal protection clause. i think it's a little bit hazardous to anticipate where the court will go on that question, and i would be reluctant to do that, but that's kind of...
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what doma says is two things. one state does not have to recognize the marriage law, same-sex marriage law, of another state. that would be struck down and then there would have to be another test as to full faith and credit. >> if you move from california to utah and you're getting the recognized marriage in california but not in utah, but in utah living in salt lake city you'd be able to get social security benefits and all the federal stuff. >> you would -- it's not clear. >> it would depend how the court rules in that case. >> if the court reaches the question of full faith and credit, what that is, utah must recognize the marriage laws of california, then, yes -- >> but you'd still be getting your social security checks, wouldn't you? >> it's not clear -- >> let's go back to a clear case. if prop 8 -- if the decision by the ninth , if the decision to strike that down, if that is upheld, where do we stand? what does that do? is equality then the law of the land? is marriage equality the law of land? >> it woul
what doma says is two things. one state does not have to recognize the marriage law, same-sex marriage law, of another state. that would be struck down and then there would have to be another test as to full faith and credit. >> if you move from california to utah and you're getting the recognized marriage in california but not in utah, but in utah living in salt lake city you'd be able to get social security benefits and all the federal stuff. >> you would -- it's not clear....
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. >> i've heard from the justice department on doma and not with prop 8 and makes it all the more curious. >> the justice department has, again, had a leadership position on overturning the defensive marriage act but if you take the legal position they have advocated in the defensive marriage act cases and you apply it to a situation like proposition 8, all of those anti-gay laws go by the wayside and really a question of them taking the arguments they made in one case and making them again in this other case. >> i want to read from an associated press article on the fear and hope some have regarding gay marriage. gay marriage supporters see 41 reasons to fret over the supreme court's decision to take up the case of california's man on same sex issues and nine states allow partners to marry or will soon. 41 states do not. of those, 30 have written gay marriage bans into their state's constitution. >> i'm not that worried and the reason is because i think that the supreme court would have only taken these cases if they thought that they were ripe for a decision that moves the country forwa
. >> i've heard from the justice department on doma and not with prop 8 and makes it all the more curious. >> the justice department has, again, had a leadership position on overturning the defensive marriage act but if you take the legal position they have advocated in the defensive marriage act cases and you apply it to a situation like proposition 8, all of those anti-gay laws go by the wayside and really a question of them taking the arguments they made in one case and making...
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being that they are federal property doma applies to military installations. there has been a lot of confusions and mixed signals sent from this administration and this amendment is going to help clarify that. >> what are you hearing from chaplains in the military about this? >> we are hearing a lot. we received a lot of letters. congressman akin's office received a lot of letters and that is part of the reason why his amendment, we have two amendments in the same day were necessary. this is federal law and basically the administration from attorney general holder and others are sending mixed signals to men and women in uniform as well as the chaplains which are spiritual and moral advisors in uniform. we are just trying to help them clarify the subject. >> we have seen the repeal of don't ask don't tell in the military. what have you heard about the ostensible effects of that repeal if anything? >> that was repealed and the last congress and i think it was finally passed by overwhelming democrat-controlled house senate in the presidency and done in a lame duc
being that they are federal property doma applies to military installations. there has been a lot of confusions and mixed signals sent from this administration and this amendment is going to help clarify that. >> what are you hearing from chaplains in the military about this? >> we are hearing a lot. we received a lot of letters. congressman akin's office received a lot of letters and that is part of the reason why his amendment, we have two amendments in the same day were...
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-- not bring back defend doma. but he also was reported last week, has been courting unsuccessfully maggie gallagher who was head of the national organization for marriage, who made those horrific homophobic ads of lightning striking america if gay people were in partnerships or got married. so it's incredible hypocrisy. and i wonder what someone like paul singer's son said to him. romney can do a lot more damage than is going to happen, would have happened in new york state, if same-sex marriage hadn't passed. >> and i wonder, the thing that surprises me is that you read something like dick cheney lobbying for same-sex marriage. >> quietly. >> quietly in maryland. ken mehlman, former chair of the republican party, being integral to that effort in new york state and other states working on same-sex marriage rights. afer, americans for equal rights, the group that has been mobilizing high-profile republicans, really high-profile republicans. not pundits, former elected officials. people high-ranking in the party. >>
-- not bring back defend doma. but he also was reported last week, has been courting unsuccessfully maggie gallagher who was head of the national organization for marriage, who made those horrific homophobic ads of lightning striking america if gay people were in partnerships or got married. so it's incredible hypocrisy. and i wonder what someone like paul singer's son said to him. romney can do a lot more damage than is going to happen, would have happened in new york state, if same-sex...
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also singled out bill clinton for having essentially special ethical responsibility to work to undo doma, the defense marriage act, passed during his administration and he signed into law. what effect do you think it would have at the worked against that. he said he's for same sex marriage but hasn't been working on these issues as far as we know. >> he hasn't and is mortified by embarrassment because doma, which did happen on his watch and a lot of support from so-called liberal democrats in congress, is the reason even in the states now where same sex marriage is legal, those couples can't have social security benefits and other benefits, that does real damage. i think he's too embarrassed to do it. he didn't mention doma in his 1000 page auto biography. >> frank rifch, the piece is mostly about democratics and the bill clinton stuff is fascinating. thank you. >> we will be right back. ♪ oh! [ baby crying ] ♪ what started as a whisper ♪ every day, millions of people choose to do the right thing. ♪ slowly turned to a scream ♪ there's an insurance company that does that, too. l
also singled out bill clinton for having essentially special ethical responsibility to work to undo doma, the defense marriage act, passed during his administration and he signed into law. what effect do you think it would have at the worked against that. he said he's for same sex marriage but hasn't been working on these issues as far as we know. >> he hasn't and is mortified by embarrassment because doma, which did happen on his watch and a lot of support from so-called liberal...
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>> under doma? >> if it is federal land or federal property, it would go against doma. >> i would yield back to mr. critz. before i do, may i simply say that the doma statute for marriage means one man and one woman. unless you have a statue, that would outlaw marriages or specifically authorize marriages, and federal parks, you can have a same-sex marriage in a federal park. that just happens. i will yield back to mr. critz. >> my question was just clarification. i do not understand what would happen -- because i don't think it is illegal. and i yield back. >> gentleman yields back. the chernow recognizes the congresswoman from california. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i to rise -- by, too, rise in opposition of this amendment. to think that we are spending time on this amendment when we have taken up hundreds of billions of dollars today without even a comment here or there -- it is somewhat striking, i think. i think the most important thing to appreciate is that this would only take place in state
>> under doma? >> if it is federal land or federal property, it would go against doma. >> i would yield back to mr. critz. before i do, may i simply say that the doma statute for marriage means one man and one woman. unless you have a statue, that would outlaw marriages or specifically authorize marriages, and federal parks, you can have a same-sex marriage in a federal park. that just happens. i will yield back to mr. critz. >> my question was just clarification. i do...
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so what happens when doma gets to the high court? we're joined by nyu constitutional law professor, kenji osheena. thanks for being here. >> great to be here, richard. >> what's going to happen? >> i think the supreme court is almost definitely going to happen. you rarely see a federal appellate court striking down one without review. >> if it takes it, what's going to happen? >> i think it's going to get struck down. >> 5-4, huh? >> 5-4, maybe even 6-3, because a lot of the conservatives actually are adamant state's rights individuals, and so if you think about this as a federal statute, that trenches on state domain, you might pick up one or two of those justices as well. >> so marriage equality proponents are watching this very, very carefully. what is it that the appellate court, in this case, found objectionable here? >> well, what was so striking about this case, compared to any prior appellate court decision is the court i applied what's known as heightened scrutiny, saying that it draws a higher level of review from the cours
so what happens when doma gets to the high court? we're joined by nyu constitutional law professor, kenji osheena. thanks for being here. >> great to be here, richard. >> what's going to happen? >> i think the supreme court is almost definitely going to happen. you rarely see a federal appellate court striking down one without review. >> if it takes it, what's going to happen? >> i think it's going to get struck down. >> 5-4, huh? >> 5-4, maybe even...
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administration did the right thing in pulling back from their defense of doma. we're making a lot of progress, and invariably something goes in front of the court i hope what david boyes has put together and ted olsenen. >> let's take it to president obama. you saw jay kearney today said he has not changed his position on this. >> yeah. >> now i know there is some other data out here from that gallon -- gallup poll, which is that 78% of liberals support gay marriage 65% of moderates support gay major -- marriage. so if you had to give president obama advice in the middle of an election should the president reverse his decision? >> i think he should do what he thinks -- well, i think he should do the right thing. as dr. king reminded us, it's always the right time to do the right thing and stand up on principlement you can't run the 90-yard dark as i said on equality, marriage is marriage f. we believe in full equality for some americans regardless of gender and ethnicity we need to believe that. >> what would you suggest? >> to do what's in the best interest of
administration did the right thing in pulling back from their defense of doma. we're making a lot of progress, and invariably something goes in front of the court i hope what david boyes has put together and ted olsenen. >> let's take it to president obama. you saw jay kearney today said he has not changed his position on this. >> yeah. >> now i know there is some other data out here from that gallon -- gallup poll, which is that 78% of liberals support gay marriage 65% of...
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ruling in favor of the arc of history and civil rights, given the fact that they're taking up both doma and prop 8. i wonder where you think roberts fits into all this. >> based on some of the other decisions he has made, i don't think he is quite as conservative as some people think. i think taking up the doma case is really important because we really need to have the defense of marriage act struck down. marriage in the states is great. but at the end of the day, there is an awful lot of benefits that come from the federal tax code, that people who get married need to enjoy if you're going to have a fair and equitable situation in society. so i think they made a big step forward here. and, you know, the court is a hard place to read. unfortunately, it's not like the election. well don't have nate silver to read every morning to tell us how it's going to turn out. but we'll all be watching closely. >> chris, there is a third issue that the justices haven't taken up yet, and that's an arizona law that bars some same-sex spouses from access to state benefits. where do we go on that? what
ruling in favor of the arc of history and civil rights, given the fact that they're taking up both doma and prop 8. i wonder where you think roberts fits into all this. >> based on some of the other decisions he has made, i don't think he is quite as conservative as some people think. i think taking up the doma case is really important because we really need to have the defense of marriage act struck down. marriage in the states is great. but at the end of the day, there is an awful lot...
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the supreme court is taking up a prop 8 and a doma case. does the president need to take a stronger stance on this now? >> i think he should. both on the substance and the politics. the constitution clearly states every american has equal rights under the law. that includes the right for loving committed couples to get married. it's a no brainer. on the pollices, as you said, that 53% support, it shot up ten points in two years. america is at a tipping point on this issue. you are right about the young people. they are going to be the majority of the electorate over the next two presidential cycles. they are already a voice in a n. it's all upside for the president and the democrats. >> erin, i'm going to get you to weigh in after the break on the president's legacy on this issue. >>> and the must-reads, the picks after this. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. with efficient absorption in one daily dose. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the f
the supreme court is taking up a prop 8 and a doma case. does the president need to take a stronger stance on this now? >> i think he should. both on the substance and the politics. the constitution clearly states every american has equal rights under the law. that includes the right for loving committed couples to get married. it's a no brainer. on the pollices, as you said, that 53% support, it shot up ten points in two years. america is at a tipping point on this issue. you are right...
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. >> bill: then guilfoyle, they'll deliberate on whether doma is constitutional? >> yes. they'll determine whether or not it violates the equal protection clause, thereby denying people who have been legally married in states and jurisdictions that allow it the benefits that accrue from being married. >> bill: so they'll most likely say it's unconstitutional? >> i think so based on the split. >> bill: when the supreme court says defense of marriage act is unconstitutional, then that let's every state decide for themselves? >> it's a state's right issue, but the supreme court will probably say. >> bill: one state said no, we don't want it here. >> that's prop 8. >> bill: okay. and then now we have that appeal heading toward the supreme court. that's separate one. >> that's the other part of this gay marriage act. >> bill: the state already decided we don't want it. >> and this lower -- >> bill: the supreme court has to decide whether the states have jurisdiction over the marital -- >> they don't got to decide anything. they don't have to take any of these cases. >> they co
. >> bill: then guilfoyle, they'll deliberate on whether doma is constitutional? >> yes. they'll determine whether or not it violates the equal protection clause, thereby denying people who have been legally married in states and jurisdictions that allow it the benefits that accrue from being married. >> bill: so they'll most likely say it's unconstitutional? >> i think so based on the split. >> bill: when the supreme court says defense of marriage act is...
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the more we can talk about why bill clinton signed doma the more we can talk about president obama's compromise. there was a risk at the time that if he didn't sign it and vetoed it, that bob dole might become president. so bill clinton helped gay folks because it kept him in office four years longer. >> although ironically had bob dole been elected we might have had a health care plan back then. [ applause ] >> exactly. >> we would be further ahead on health care, farther behind on gay rights. >> right. [ mysterious music ] >> and bill clinton going to wisconsin. [ applause ] >> that's nice thanks democratic party with four days to go. >> yeah, we'll see what happens -- because from what i am told there are all kinds of different polls and some of them are showing it very, very tight. >> i was going the governor spitzer show last week -- [ bell chimes ] . >> -- and i said can we please do a whole piece about wisconsin. and it seemed like the democrats were really letting bennett hang in the wind. and debbie wasserman schultz went last week and last week the dnc wrote their first che
the more we can talk about why bill clinton signed doma the more we can talk about president obama's compromise. there was a risk at the time that if he didn't sign it and vetoed it, that bob dole might become president. so bill clinton helped gay folks because it kept him in office four years longer. >> although ironically had bob dole been elected we might have had a health care plan back then. [ applause ] >> exactly. >> we would be further ahead on health care, farther...
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>> well, the challenge here to doma really is that only this provision in doma is unconstitutional as applied to legally married same-sex couples. the argument is that that provision discriminates against them by treating them differently from legally married opposite sex couple its. so if the court found in favor of edie windsor as the lower federal appellate court here did t would not affect any state's law that prohibits same-sex marriage so this is more of a yes or so no question, there aren't as many options as there are with the california prop 8 case for the court. >> warner: very briefly, the court did also raise so called standing issues in each one is it fair to say if they rule on these standing issue these could be incredibly narrow rulings. >> they could. the standing questions have to do with whether parties including the united states government are properly before the court in these cases. if the court finds that they are not properly before them the court will never even get to the marriage. the cases will be dismissed. >> warner: marcia, thank you so much. >> my plea
>> well, the challenge here to doma really is that only this provision in doma is unconstitutional as applied to legally married same-sex couples. the argument is that that provision discriminates against them by treating them differently from legally married opposite sex couple its. so if the court found in favor of edie windsor as the lower federal appellate court here did t would not affect any state's law that prohibits same-sex marriage so this is more of a yes or so no question,...
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let's start with doma. if that is struck down by the high court, thewill that be thed of conservatives' attempts of outlawing gay marriage? >> it is the mother of all federal laws to try to outlaw. it will be over it it's overturned. if social conservatives try to get smart about this stuff, looking for opportunities to play defense instead of offense, doma, which is a terrible law in my estimation, was an attempt to completely play offense. you can't do this anywhere in any state. we're going to pre-empt you before you try. i think social cons are in a much better position when they say, look, let's make it so the government can't compel us to do things privately we don't want to do. i think you'll see much more emphasis placed on that. the question will be more than what will the supreme court try to do because they don't want to be out in front of public opinion too much. it's going to be fascinating. >> and they've rarely been accused of doing that either. david, let's move on to prop 8 in california. i
let's start with doma. if that is struck down by the high court, thewill that be thed of conservatives' attempts of outlawing gay marriage? >> it is the mother of all federal laws to try to outlaw. it will be over it it's overturned. if social conservatives try to get smart about this stuff, looking for opportunities to play defense instead of offense, doma, which is a terrible law in my estimation, was an attempt to completely play offense. you can't do this anywhere in any state. we're...
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, the four democratic -- the four democratic members of the court will vote to allow -- to overturn doma, to allow california to have same-sex marriages. i think anthony kennedy, as is often the case, will be the swing vote. >> jeff toobin, thanks very much. >>> tragedy after a prank call makes headlines. this is such an awful story. a pair of australian shock jocks, deejays, whatever you want to call them, got through to the ward treating katherine, the duchess of cambridge. the nurse that answered the phone has apparently taken her own life. there's fallout for the deejays. the royal family is weighing in on what happened. we have a live report ahead. aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. >>> the fight for a baby girl. the father says the mother never told him she was giving it up for adoption. will the adoptive parents give her up? that's the question. a judge has ruled. we'll tell you what happened when we continue. >>> tonight, "360" following
, the four democratic -- the four democratic members of the court will vote to allow -- to overturn doma, to allow california to have same-sex marriages. i think anthony kennedy, as is often the case, will be the swing vote. >> jeff toobin, thanks very much. >>> tragedy after a prank call makes headlines. this is such an awful story. a pair of australian shock jocks, deejays, whatever you want to call them, got through to the ward treating katherine, the duchess of cambridge. the...
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and the fact that he doesn't want to have doma any more is huge. once doma is gone, then we can really move forward with federal receipts. i think it's very easy to be a naysayer about how far we haven't come, but i'm taking the tack this time, this is huge. we've come a long, long way. we have a lot of people we're to be grateful for. this is my president, president obama. i can't wait to get out there and vote for him, can't wait for work for his campaign. i feel very, very excited. >> let me ask you then about mitt romney. he doesn't support same-sex marriage or civil unions. do you have a message for him and maybe the gop on why you might think republicans should consider their stance? >> well, as we all know and as you've reported, attitudes are changing about same-sex marriage. we are in the midst of an evolution of beliefs. you know, i feel saddened for people who can't see the necessity for civil rights, for gay people in the united states. i think there's a lot of political fear with christian conservative, other religious conservative gro
and the fact that he doesn't want to have doma any more is huge. once doma is gone, then we can really move forward with federal receipts. i think it's very easy to be a naysayer about how far we haven't come, but i'm taking the tack this time, this is huge. we've come a long, long way. we have a lot of people we're to be grateful for. this is my president, president obama. i can't wait to get out there and vote for him, can't wait for work for his campaign. i feel very, very excited. >>...
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he said doma is unconstitutional and believes people should have the right to get married to people of the same sex and has taken concrete action to oppose it. all the ohio democrats voted against the defense of marriage act. on the issue, democrat approval is there. people are giving the platform more prominence than it ever earn. >> i predict that the beginning of the democratic convention in charlotte when nothing else is happening monday and tuesday when the word is out about the platform, we will be talking a lot about that on the front pages of newspapers across the country. this is a big issue politically. >> except that -- i understand it's an issue, but i'm baffled by the media. why wasn't it a big issue when the president of the united states repudiated doma and said it was unconstitutional and refused to defend it? why wasn't it a big issue when the house of representatives voted on it? it's a position that nothing's new about it. >> you know where i stand. but for the first time in history, congressman frank, a major political party in this country, you only have two of the
he said doma is unconstitutional and believes people should have the right to get married to people of the same sex and has taken concrete action to oppose it. all the ohio democrats voted against the defense of marriage act. on the issue, democrat approval is there. people are giving the platform more prominence than it ever earn. >> i predict that the beginning of the democratic convention in charlotte when nothing else is happening monday and tuesday when the word is out about the...
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there's a high chance that this court will here an appeal to doma. it could be the first court that establishes with respect to gay rights. even though the politics would suggest otherwise. so you know it works both ways and it's going to be curious to see not only which cases they pick up but in what manner they do it and how the arguments play out. again, doma could come up there and so could prop 8. so i'm curious to see how it plays out. i'm assuming jeff will be on top of all of it, too. >> how would roe v. wade be taken down? what would be the step to weaken it? >> we may see that sooner rather than later, because a lot of states, a lot of the red states have imposed more and more restrictions on the right to abortion. whether it's longer waiting periods or establishing very ownow onerous rules for what facilities can do an abortion. the supreme court in 2006 upheld the so-called partial birth abortion law which restricted a certain kind of abortion. that is, i mean that's how it works. and ultimately, i mean, justice kennedy's opinion in that
there's a high chance that this court will here an appeal to doma. it could be the first court that establishes with respect to gay rights. even though the politics would suggest otherwise. so you know it works both ways and it's going to be curious to see not only which cases they pick up but in what manner they do it and how the arguments play out. again, doma could come up there and so could prop 8. so i'm curious to see how it plays out. i'm assuming jeff will be on top of all of it, too....
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syrian troops stormed a damascus suburb today going house to house to round up opponents in doma. this is video from another suburb. where the troops were deployed in strength. >>> the son of the u.s. transportation secretary is one of several americans barred from leaving egypt. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is here with details. good evening. >> reporter: thank you. good evening. tonight the issue is work at the highest level of the obama administration. the president is involved. secretary of state clinton is involved. her senior human rights official told reporters in cairo the incident raised concern about egypt transition to democracy. asked about his son, one of at least five americans barred from leaving egypt. secretary ray lahood offered basic details. >> i talked to them two or three times today. how is he doing? >> just fine. thank you. >> any word when he might come home? >> there are a lot of people working on that. see how it works out. >> the director for the washington based international republican institute, iri, a group that promotes democ
syrian troops stormed a damascus suburb today going house to house to round up opponents in doma. this is video from another suburb. where the troops were deployed in strength. >>> the son of the u.s. transportation secretary is one of several americans barred from leaving egypt. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is here with details. good evening. >> reporter: thank you. good evening. tonight the issue is work at the highest level of the obama administration....
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case, or whichever doma case they take. for all kinds of reasons, it's an extraordinary thing that the federal government, while it accepts the state government definitions of marriage for every other kind of marriage, including common-law marriages or other marriages, there are some differences between the states. this is the one category that gets singled out for deferential treatment. so that just sets up i think for justice kennedy, unicom has sort of rome or philosophy, and so that's my most hopeful expectation. >> chad, sorry to interrupt, but could you from a strategic standpoint, i mean, is there a risk in bringing these issues to this court? >> i think anytime one files a lawsuit there's always risk. you can either win or you can lose. i absolutely believe that we're on the right side of this issue. we have the actual constitution in our favor. as we saw in the prop eight trial, which was 12 days of brilliance that chief judge walker oversaw. when our opposition is forced into a court of law, where truth and fact a
case, or whichever doma case they take. for all kinds of reasons, it's an extraordinary thing that the federal government, while it accepts the state government definitions of marriage for every other kind of marriage, including common-law marriages or other marriages, there are some differences between the states. this is the one category that gets singled out for deferential treatment. so that just sets up i think for justice kennedy, unicom has sort of rome or philosophy, and so that's my...
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we wouldn't be not stopping enforcing doma or trying to repeal doma in congress through the freedom to marry act if the president didn't believe that committed couples deserves the same rights and protections. we wouldn't be repealing things like don't ask, don't tell and removing every federal barrier that we can on our own to ensure that gay and lesbian couples have the same rights and protections as other couples. throws significant steps forward in just 3 1/2 years of this administration. so when you say that gay and lesbian voters have no place else to go, i find that completely wrong because we have a record that we're proud of. and we have a record that gay and lesbian voters across this country have been drawn to. they appreciate the progress that we've been making. after years of fighting to pass hate crimes in congress, we finally got it done. there are significant accomplishments in this administration to ensuring equality for everybody. >> the question to joe biden was not about the civil unions. the question to joe biden was about marriage. marriage is different from equal
we wouldn't be not stopping enforcing doma or trying to repeal doma in congress through the freedom to marry act if the president didn't believe that committed couples deserves the same rights and protections. we wouldn't be repealing things like don't ask, don't tell and removing every federal barrier that we can on our own to ensure that gay and lesbian couples have the same rights and protections as other couples. throws significant steps forward in just 3 1/2 years of this administration....
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and then in the case of challenges to doma, what it would mean if the supreme court takes up the case and eventually owe pines in favor of equality and strikes down the defense of marriage act what it would result in is nothing more than in the states that have marriage equality, the federal government would have to recognize those marriages and offer federal benefits to the same sex legally married couples only in those states. not really a marriage case. it's nothing more than the federal government recognizing legally valid same sex marriages in those states for federal benefit purposes. host: the human rights campaign, vice president for communications. this is citrus heights, california. richard is on the line on our republican line. go ahead. caller: i don't know where to start. this is so ridiculous that this man, fred, -- i just turned on the television. and he has to plead his case and ask for just human rights just like we all have. first, i'm a vietnam veteran. i'm straight as an arrow, even though i am from california believe it or not there are straight people out here. a
and then in the case of challenges to doma, what it would mean if the supreme court takes up the case and eventually owe pines in favor of equality and strikes down the defense of marriage act what it would result in is nothing more than in the states that have marriage equality, the federal government would have to recognize those marriages and offer federal benefits to the same sex legally married couples only in those states. not really a marriage case. it's nothing more than the federal...
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the high court today decided to hear two appeals, one involving doma, the federal defense of marriage act, and the other, a challenge to california's proposition 8 which took away the right for gays and lesbians to legally wed in the state of california. now, the court's expected to hear arguments in march with a ruling by late june, and the decision to take on the issue comes just weeks after voters in three more states approved same sex marriage. no one knows more about the supreme court than our cnn legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. how big a dl is this? put it in perspective. >> this is a major event in american history, not just court history because same sex marriage now is at the center of the american legal world. this was a cause that was seen as a fringe issue as recently as the '90s. >> it wasn't even mentioned as a possibility. >> it was not even mentioned. polling has gone from approximately 20% to 30% support in the '90s, now gallup polls showed 53%, exit polls showed 49%. it now appears to command close to a majority support and now the supreme court may decide that same s
the high court today decided to hear two appeals, one involving doma, the federal defense of marriage act, and the other, a challenge to california's proposition 8 which took away the right for gays and lesbians to legally wed in the state of california. now, the court's expected to hear arguments in march with a ruling by late june, and the decision to take on the issue comes just weeks after voters in three more states approved same sex marriage. no one knows more about the supreme court than...
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namely, but oppoing doma, by saying that he would not carry out the unconstitutional mandate that we not get the same benefits as anybody else. there is no general federal marriage policy. so, again, in public policy, he did just the right thing. but as you know, we have several referenda coming. and there has been some effort within the african-american community to kind of say, oh, well, family stability is important. these people are trying to undermine it. in the california referenda in 2008, people were quoting barack obama's opposition at that point to same-sex marriage, in literature aimed at the black community. we have a very important referendum coming up this year in the state of maryland, where the legislature got this, governor o'malley took the lead, and same-sex marriage was approved. i was fearing that you would see people who were trying not to allow this to go forward, invoking president obama in the referendum. now they won't be able to do that. plus, that's it's also important what the president says. and i think with regard to bill clinton, it was important that
namely, but oppoing doma, by saying that he would not carry out the unconstitutional mandate that we not get the same benefits as anybody else. there is no general federal marriage policy. so, again, in public policy, he did just the right thing. but as you know, we have several referenda coming. and there has been some effort within the african-american community to kind of say, oh, well, family stability is important. these people are trying to undermine it. in the california referenda in...